The following letter was published on facebook as a note by "Hrdayananda DasGoswami". That facebook user has recently been created and as yet it is unverified that it is *the* Hrdayananda Goswami irl (irl= in real life).
A recent article on Chakra.org reported that H.H. Hrdayananda Goswami blessed a gay male couple who then performed a marriage ceremony of some description.
That report prompted a number of responses, most notably Krishna-kirti's published on Sampradaya Sun.
The following letter is interesting, and if it's not from Maharaja it's a good "fake Hrdayananda".
Letter From Hridayananda Maharaja
by Hridayananda das Goswami
Posted February 6, 2009 [via facebook]
Dear Devotees,
Jaya Srila Prabhupada. A letter of blessings that I sent to a gay couple has caused an extraordinary amount of controversy, and so I am writing here to clarify my understanding of this issue, and the intention of my letter.
In the Bhagavad-gita 17.15, Lord Krishna states that "Austerity of speech consists in speaking words that are truthful, pleasing, beneficial, and not agitating to others..."
I have clearly failed to some extent in this duty as prescribed by Lord Krishna, given the bitter and insulting nature of some responses. I sincerely apologize to the devotees for this evident failure.
I have been accused of harboring thinly veiled political motives, or of seeking to impose upon ISKCON a new and de facto social reality regarding homosexual relations. To the devotees, even to the incredulous, I state here that none of this was my intention. In my letter, as I will later explain in detail, I sought, and apparently failed, to strike a balance that would not convulse ISKCON. The great agitation produced by my letter shows that I failed in my intent, for which I again apologize.
I am keenly aware that I do not have the right within ISKCON to unilaterally establish policy on this matter, and my intention was not to preempt, nor to pressure or coerce, a GBC decision on the issue.
Ironically, my own views on homosexuality are seen by the world in general as rather conservative and indeed those views often disappoint gay rights activists. As stated in an earlier paper I wrote on this topic:
1. I do not advocate, nor perform, gay marriage. I accept the view of Srila Prabhupada, (and, by the way, of the well-known gay musician, Elton John) that marriage historically has been, and should remain, a heterosexual institution.
2. Although science proves that a segment of the population is born with a homosexual orientation, and although homosexuality is thus natural for that group, I do not believe that what is natural for an individual or a group of individuals, is necessarily natural for society. Therefore I seek a balance that respects the genetically, unavoidably homosexual nature of an individual, as well as the natural right of society as a whole to privilege heterosexuality as its social norm.
In my letter, which was addressed to educated non-devotees, I began by saying:
"Our love for each other is a reflection of God's love for us. Thus, the perfection of every relationship is to see God in each other."
Since Krishna's love for us is pure, I believed that serious devotees would understand, from the beginning of my statement, that I was speaking of spiritual love, rather than mundane, bodily lust. I believed they would see that I was encouraging the persons involved to see Krishna within each other, and thus fully transcend the bodily concept of life. I then stated:
"May God bless [these] devoted souls, as they commit themselves to each other in the spirit of God's love for them. May [they] always please God through true love for each other."
Clearly we please Krishna by renouncing all sinful activities and selfish desires, and I made this very clear to both parties in private conversations. In other words I offered blessings not for their sense gratification, but for the exact opposite: the giving up of any activity not pleasing to Krishna. I referred to them as "devoted souls" because I do not believe that a person genetically wired for homosexuality is necessarily "bestial" or "demonic" as some apparently feel.
Irrefutable history shows us that many sincere souls born with a homosexual orientation have struggled sincerely to serve Srila Prabhupada's mission, and to awaken their dormant love for Krishna, despite an often heavy private and social burden. I cannot see such souls, as some apparently do, as disgusting freaks, willfully and obscenely offending God and nature by their genetic makeup. I am well aware of Srila Prabhupada's statements on this matter and I am confident that a mature, thorough knowledge of Prabhupada's preaching content and style makes possible a more moderate interpretation of those statements. I feel that I am well prepared to logically defend this view though I will not belabor it here.
I also do not go to the other extreme of denying that homosexuality, in some ways, is problematic within a spiritual society. The special burden of devotees born with this condition can only be fully eliminated by their own spiritual enlightenment.
In the last paragraph of my letter, I said: "By such true spiritual love, may they always be, each for the other, a source of spiritual inspiration and happiness. May their relationship lead them, patiently and steadily, back to our real home in the spiritual world, where all relationships become eternal and perfect."
I believed that devotees would recognize the language of true spiritual love as referring to pure Krishna consciousness, far beyond the bodily concept of life, far above any form of sexuality. And clearly a relationship that leads people back to the spiritual world must be a relationship which, through genuine devotion and sacrifice, has become fully pleasing to Krishna.
Not a word in my letter addresses current social or political issues related to homosexuality. Not a word in my letter claims a legal status for homosexual couples, be it marriage or civil union. As a Vaishnava teacher, not as a political operative, nor as a renegade policy maker, I prayed to Krishna that He guide two sincere souls to His lotus feet.
That I expressed this sincere wish in a manner that was not sufficiently sensitive to the concerns of other sincere Vaishnavas, I admit. I truly regret this failing on my part. However, that I acted with political motives, I vehemently deny.
Let us take this situation as an opportunity to earnestly discuss how we may best preserve our sacred principles: both our moral rigor as well as our deep compassion.
With best wishes,
Your servant,
Hridayananda das Goswami




article authentic, not a forgery
[this comment was posted to namahatta.org, where this blog post has been imported via it's RSS feed:]
HDG article
The article is authentic and has also been published in other organs. It was a message to the GBC body.
ys malati manjari dd
I wish Prabhupada were here
I wish Prabhupada were here to set you all Straight on this subject. There is no way he would buy into this foolish deviation. People are not born homosexual.
10 points for the "set you
10 points for the "set you all Straight" pun. :-)
Born Gay
Hare Krsna! People are definitely born homosexual. This is stated in Vedic medical texts such as the Sushruta Samhita (3.2.38-45) and the Caraka Samhita (4.2.17-21). Both of the these texts describe different types of homosexual people and how they are conceived at the time of conception. Since Srila Prabhupada quotes both of these texts in his writings, and respected Vedic science in general, it is hard to imagine he would dismiss these verses, especially when they concur with modern findings. Of course, Srila Prabhupada is no longer physically present for consultation but the Vedic references remain to help guide us in the right direction on these matters.
No need to make a fuss about
No need to make a fuss about it - people are born with all forms of abnormalities & disabilities, and society has to make room for them.
Wwhether it's 'natural' or not is another very difficult question - Is it natural for someone to have 6 toes on one foot, or is a fish born with 2 heads natural?- those events happen, but are they natural?
As to whether animals 'do it' with others of the same sex is probably irrelevant - how many scientists, astronauts, medical practitioners etc do you know that are animals?
They may behave like animals sometimes, but it should also be clear that humans are on a different level to animals.
Yes, I know some homosexuals personally - of course they are still people, and should not be discriminated against.
(anyone who doesn't know any, then make an effort, or at least go and see the movie 'Milk' to get some understanding)
Apart from being born 'gay', there is another issue that some misguided people may choose it - how many times have you seen a married man or woman 'come out' after many years of apparently happy marriage? - If they were truly born gay, wouldn't they have found the hetro lifestyle abhorent or at least unnatural to them?
IMO, the bottom line is that homosexuality should be condoned, but not celebrated.
(excuse the pun :)
Re: No need to make a fuss
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to make a fuss but just help educate. Devotees should know that our Ayurvedic Shastras clearly describe homosexuality as inborn as this will help eliminate much of the basic ignorance regarding homosexual orientation.
Biological differences such as race, left-handedness and yes, gender, may be perceived as wanted or unwanted, desirable or undesirable, but they should never be viewed as "chosen vices," "acquired illnesses," etc. That is never helpful.
Studies verifying homosexuality throughout the animal kingdom simply underline the fact that homosexual orientation is biological (a part of nature) and not merely sociological ("against nature.")
In terms of men who marry women and later switch to men (and vice versa) this is another phenomenom of nature known as bisexuality. Since sexuality falls on a spectrum, people are not only homosexual or heterosexual but may also be born with a mixed or bisexual orientation. Although a bisexual person will have to "choose" one gender over another in order to accept a single partner, having bisexual orientation itself is not a choice and is also found within the animal kingdom.
Finally, I do not at all believe in flaunting sexuality but I do believe in celebrating human diversity. Personally, I am always very grateful and amazed at the vast diversity found in Krsna's creation.
Lahiri: There are two kinds
Lahiri: There are two kinds of people in this world: those who are spiritually awake and those who are spiritually unconscious. The sastras have praised secondary results for the benefit of those who are spiritually unconscious, and who do not perform any pious activity unless they can visualize a forthcoming result. However, the sastras do not intend such people to remain satisfied with secondary results; rather, their attraction to secondary results should induce them to perform virtuous acts, which will hasten their contact with sadhus. Then, by the mercy of the sadhus, they will come to know of the primary results of hari-bhajana, and taste for those results will awaken within them.
Devidasa: Then are we to understand that Raghunandana and the other authors of the smrti-sastras are spiritually unconscious?
Lahiri: No, but the system that they have prescribed is for the spiritually unconscious. However, they themselves seek the primary result.
Devidasa: Some sastras only describe the secondary results and do not mention the primary results at all. Why is this?
Lahiri: There are three types of sastra, corresponding to the varieties of adhikara (eligibility) among human beings: sattvika, of the nature of goodness; rajasika, of the nature of passion; and tamasika, of the nature of ignorance. The sattvika-sastras are for people who are imbued with the nature of goodness (sattva-guna); the rajasika-sastras are for those enveloped by the nature of passion (rajo-guna); and the tamasika-sastras are for those engrossed in the nature of ignorance (tamo-guna).
Devidasa: If that is the case, how should one know which directives of the sastra to have faith in? And how may those of lower adhikara (eligibility) attain a higher destination?
Lahiri: Human beings have different natures and faiths according to their different levels of adhikara. People who are impelled primarily by the mode of ignorance have natural faith in the tamasika-sastras. Those affected primarily by the mode of passion have natural faith in the rajasika-sastras, and those in the mode of goodness naturally have faith in the sattvika-sastras. One’s belief in a particular conclusion of the sastra is naturally in accordance with one’s faith.
As one faithfully carries out the duties for which one has the adhikara, he may come into contact with sadhus and develop a higher adhikara through their association. As soon as a higher adhikara is awakened, one’s nature is elevated, and one’s faith in a more elevated sastra will follow accordingly. The authors of the sastras were infallible in their wisdom and composed the sastras in such a way that one will gradually develop higher adhikara by carrying out the duties for which one is eligible and in which one naturally has faith. It is for this reason that different directives have been given in different sastras. Faith in the sastra is the root of all auspiciousness.
Srimad Bhagavad-Gita is the mimamsa-sastra of all the sastras. This siddhanta is clearly stated there.
Devidasa: I have studied many sastras since my childhood, but today, by your grace, I have understood their purpose in an entirely new light.
Lahiri: It is written in Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.8.10):
anubhyas ca mahadbhyas ca sastrebhyah kusalo narah
sarvatah saram adadyat puspebhya iva satpadah
An intelligent person will take the essence of all the sastras, whether they are great or small, just as a bumblebee gathers honey from many different types of flowers.
My dear son, I used to call you an atheist. Now I don’t criticize anyone, because faith depends on adhikara. There is no question of criticism in this regard. Everyone is working according to their own adhikara, and they will advance gradually when the time is appropriate. You are a scholar of the sastras dealing with logic and fruitive action, and since your statements are in accordance with your adhikara, there is no fault in them.
Devidasa: Until now, I believed that there were no scholars in the Vaisnava sampradaya. I thought that the Vaisnavas were merely fanatics who concerned themselves solely with one part of the sastra, but what you have explained today has completely dispelled my misconceptions. Now I have faith that some of the Vaisnavas have truly understood the essence of the sastra.
- Jaiva Dharma, by Bhaktivinode Thakura, chapter 5
taking things from their perspective and needs for a minute...
just came across this- it is definately an emotional appeal but it certainly gets the point accross!
http://crooksandliars.com/julia-rosen/video-will-break-your-heart